August 3, 2012
Hi, my name is Kate!
I am looking for a paleo/primal buddy who is also trying to conceive, or who has conceived while eating paleo..
I am 21, my husband and I were married in Sept 2010. I suffered from vaginismus until July 2011, which set back my 'plan' for starting a family in 2011. We finally started trying to conceive in February this year, the same time that I started the paleo (I'm more primal as I eat tons of cheese) way of eating.. I have had great success on a low carb diet, losing weight, conquering migraines, and feeling so much better in general!
For those who have been through the TTC cycle, you know it can be very emotionally draining, month after month of disappointment. I have always had an irregular cycle; after going off birth control in Dec I had a regular 31 day cycle, then a 47 day cycle, which was confusing and frustrating, then 24, 26 & 25 days, the shortest cycles I've ever had, last month was 31 days again and I thought it might get easier from then on.. but I'm now 4 days late with another negative test.
I found this awesome site last night, and the first thing I searched for was about pregnancy and fertility, I came across the post about Carbohydrates for Fertility and Health (http://www.paleoforwomen.com/c…..nd-health/) and I read that maybe all these months I'd actually been jeopardizing my chances of conceiving.
So today I am trying to up my carb intake a bit.. Whoever would have thought that would be hard to do?! (just about to hook into my sweet potato fries! better eat them all before my boy gets home in a few minutes!
I would appreciate any experiences and information from other people who have or are going through this experience..
Sorry for all of the details, but I would really love to share experiences with someone else who is going through this journey as well! I have buddies on TTC forums and we really help eachother out! Please reply if you need some support TTC or even if you are thinking about it etc.
August 2, 2012
Hi Kate! My name is Kelly, and I am also TTC. I am 34 years old, and my husband is 35. We've been TTC for almost a year now and have not yet had any success.
Diet-wise, I'm more on the primal side as well. I eat cheese and other dairy (greek yogurt, cream), and will "cheat" with corn, beans, rice on occasion (I do love my Mexican food!). I will also splurge on chocolate and ice cream once in a while. I really do need to get my diet more on track, but I still stick within a 80/20 ratio, and I'm really good with avoiding wheat. When I've tracked my food, I found that I tend to naturally eat really low-carb most of the time. Maybe I should try upping the carbs -- though I do have sweet potatoes often when I have a particularly tough workout.
For me, the disappointment each month is crushing because I don't (outwardly) have anything wrong. I exercise. I eat well. My cycle is (and has been) regular (28-30 days). I ovulate (verified with OPKs and tracking my BBT), and my luteal phase is good (12-13 days). We time everything great… yet nothing.
I have an appointment with my doc next month to discuss our next step, if this cycle isn't our lucky one. Maybe my tubes are blocked. Maybe my husband has issues. We don't know, but since there aren't any obvious problems, I think that it's time to start checking into things.
Good luck to you!
July 31, 2012
I'm in this boat too. And if you felt the need to apologise for all the details, wait till you hear mine!
A bit of background: some five years ago now we decided to start a family and I came off the pill. I got pregnant almost immediately and had a trouble-free pregnancy and a healthy baby girl, delivered by caesarian because she was breech and, said the consultant, there was no-one in the area trained in a natural breech birth. (I knew at the time that the best thing to do for a natural breech birth is nothing at all, but decided I'd rather have a routine caesarian than have to fight off a bunch of panicked health professionals trying to do things wrong.)
Sadly she died for no apparent reason just after her second birthday. I miscarried shortly after that, requiring surgical evacuation, and then went through a long phase of short cycles and light bleeds, and quite a lot of thrush. Eventually I went for some scans which showed that one of my tubes was blocked and swollen with lots of adhesions. I must have contracted an infection at some point; whether from the caesarian or the surgical evacuation or just coincidentally there's no way of knowing. They tied that tube off to prevent the fluids from interfering with implantation. More months of nothing happening. A round of IVF initially resulted in a negative pregnancy test, but a couple of weeks later I started getting abdominal pains. I was pregnant, but they couldn't find it anywhere on the scan. An ectopic was suspected; I miscarried. Another scan later showed a haemorrhagic cyst on the ovary (the one that responded more strongly to the IVF).
That was back in March (though it dragged on into April). In May my husband and I found Mark Sisson's Primal Blueprint and started following that. It's made a huge difference to our energy levels and general health. I was hoping it might help my fertility too. I'm supplementing with folic acid, as I'm supposed to, and also with vitamin D (I'm in Scotland and we don't get much sunshine). I have noticed that my cycle has lengthened in the past couple of months, but that could as easily be a hormonal reset following the IVF as anything to do with my diet.
In about a week I have another scan to see whether my cyst has gone down. If it has I'll be offered another round of IVF. If it hasn't they'll probably want to operate to take out the cyst, probably removing at least some of the ovary with it. I'm really hoping that it won't come to that. I've read some of the stuff about PCOS but I'm really not sure it applies to me, with one cyst that probably came about from the IVF treatment. But I've taken to eating seaweed in case the iodine helps it.
I wouldn't say my carbs are either particularly low or particularly high: I don't eat potatoes or sweet potatoes but do eat carrots and parsnips, and have quite a lot of vegetables in general. I have yoghurt for breakfast (amongst other things). At the moment I'm trying to get to the bottom of a gut problem which is (I assume) a completely separate issue.
I too would be interested to hear from other people who are trying to conceive.
July 31, 2012
Hi Kate (& Co)!
I too am TTC. I am 30 and my husband is 35. We were married in August 2010 so have been married close to the same as you and your husband. We decided to start TTC in November of 2011. We knew that it would probably take some time to conceive because I had always had irregular cycles – like 2-4 a year. We got off Birth Control and were pregnant a month later, or so we thought. An ultrasound in January showed a blighted ovum, basically a sac and no baby. I naturally miscarried a full month (February) after that ultrasound. I continued to have long periods of bleeding March through June. I would bleed for 3 weeks straight and then stop for 5 days. At the end of June I made several changes. First I "rebooted" my system with estrogen therapy per my Dr. Basically I took 2+ weeks of birth control in a 5 day period. It stopped the bleeding then kicked off a new cycle which lasted for a normal amount of time.
The second change was my diet. My husband and I made the switch to Paleo not even realizing or knowing it could have an effect on TTC. I have bad heartburn all the time and crazy indigestion. We were hoping the switch would help that. My husband had some minor medical stuff he was hoping that Paleo would fix too. We have been relatively strict with Paleo for the last 6 months. I have had a few exceptions, ice-cream a couple of times and dark chocolate occasionally. I have felt a lot better. But not sure if I am doing the "right" things right now. Should I be eating more carbs or less carbs? Are there supplements or specific foods I should be incorporating more of?
I'm also nervous that I may have PCOS. In my last ultrasound I had cysts on my ovaries, I obviously have issues with irregular cycles and not ovulating and I have that middle section that hangs on for dear life in my body (insulin issues?).
I'm planning on reading through this book: http://tamarindball.org/lj/pcosbook2.pdf which sounds like it will have lots of ideas/suggestions for Paleo and PCOS. My doctor wants me to wait three months before coming back in to test for PCOS. I think she wants to see if the estrogen therapy may reboot things completely? Three months sure does feel like a lifetime when you want to conceive. I did just have a period all on my own which is exciting, even if I didn't ovulate (which my temperatures tell me I didn't). It feels like a good start in the right direction.
Are there any books/resources/articles/blog posts that people are reading that have encouraged them with Paleo and Fertility? Anything you've read that made you think "ooh I'm going to incorporate that?" I've seen things like drinking spearmint tea or eating kelp – I'm just wondering where these suggestions come from?
I mentioned the ebook above which I'm going to start digging into soon. I'm curious about the Health Baby Code: http://healthybabycode.com/signup but not ready to invest in it. I would love to hear about what other's are reading to help motivate them!
July 31, 2012
I dunno, the Healthy Baby Code looks like a heck of a lot of money to pay for something that's basically going to tell you to eat liver, egg yolks, fermented food, vegetables, meat, and fish, and to avoid grains and junk. Which we all know already. Unless anyone who's paid for it can tell me that it says a lot more stuff that can't be found elsewhere?
August 5, 2012
Greetings, all! My name is Kay, and I'm TTC, too. I'm 33, my husband is 37, and all told, we've been trying for about three and a half years, with an intervening first trimester miscarriage around two years ago. I gave up gluten in the beginning of June after discovering the connection between infertility and gluten intolerance. I've been eating Paleo since purchasing the Healthy Baby Code in late June. Primarily, it makes the basic Paleo dietary recommendations (although he encourages raw, grass fed dairy for those who can tolerate it. ) He also gives specific recommendations for certain nutrients, both preconception and during pregnancy. There's also a section on what foods to introduce (and when) after baby is born. Was it worth it? For me, yes, because it really got me to look more closely at the Paleo/primal lifestyle, and how it will improve my health and quality of life. And it has certainly increased my healthy skepticism for conventional wisdom, which can only be a good thing! But for people who are already eating and living Paleo/Primal, it may not be worth it. Maybe if you want to know a bit more about why you're eating what you're eating, and are curious as to how to implement Paleo principals with your baby.
Has anyone here had any experience with natural fertility supplements, like. Vitex/ chaste berry? I posted specifically about this in another part of the forums but I figured since everyone here is TTC, too, it would be worth it to ask.
July 31, 2012
the connection between infertility and gluten intolerance.
Wow! I'd never heard of that before! But I looked it up and there does seem to be some evidence for it.
Since changing my diet three months ago, I've been having bouts of gut problems now and again. I've been suspecting the odd small dose of wheat (usually as oyster sauce in stir-fries) – mainly because the one time I've had pasta I threw up and had diarrhoea, but I recognise that could have just been a carb overdose. But if I am developing a gluten intolerance, then that could be impacting on my fertility. I plan to challenge myself with another pasta meal soon to see whether it causes the same problem – and I'll also do a control challenge with potatoes to rule out the carb overdose hypothesis.
Tomorrow I have an ultrasound scan to see how my cyst is doing.
August 3, 2012
Wow, I didn't expect so many replies so soon! (and I didn't get any notification so I must have to change some settings..)
Hi everyone, it's great to meet you all!
After upping my carb intake a few days ago I have actually had a migraine But I was also travelling and didn't get much sleep which probably didn't help.
I am now 8 days late with another negative test today..
I have heard great things about paleo and PCOS and also unexplained infertility issues.. There is a great article here: http://theprimalparent.com/201…..-syndrome/
I don't have much time right now cause I have to get to work.. But I came across this book called Sweet Potato Power http://sweetpotatopower.com/ by Ashley Tudor. It looks like it has some great info about Carbs, Sweet Potatoes and how to figure out how many carbs you need personally.. Has anybody read this or know anything about it?
I haven't heard of the Healthy Baby Code but there is another one called Beautiful Babies which is about the same price http://www.foodrenegade.com/babies/ has anybody know anything about that either?
Good luck to all you ladies and I will jump back on later when I have some time!
August 3, 2012
Hi ladies, how are we all doing?
I am currently 19 days late, I took another test this morning and got another negative. I don't suppose there are any safe ways of forcing my body to reset and bringing on my period without seeing my doctor..
Has anyone else missed or had a late period after going low carb?
August 5, 2012
Well, I've finally had a "re-boot"- my period came last Thursday after 57 days, which does overlap the time when I went moderately low-carb. But I've also had lengthy cycles like that long before I went Paleo (most recently in January/February, possibly attributable to over-training), so I don't know if I can attribute it to the diet or not. The fertility blend supplement arrived last week, also, so I've been taking that since last Thursday. It does take some getting used to, though- three caplets, as opposed to the one I'm used to for my multi. :p So we'll call this the beginning of month 1 for the supplement, which I know can take a few months before it takes effect. But I'll let you know how things go.
August 3, 2012
Hey damecaite24 that's great!
Mine has also restarted at 51 days! So I was three weeks late, the first week that I missed mine I started adding in a few more carbs in the form of sweet potatoes or rice. And also some bananas. I don't know whether it was just an off cycle, as I am generally irregular just not this much! Or if adding a few carbs in kickstarted ovulation again. But I am continuing to eat some sweet potato everyday or rice occasionally. And I just take a prenatal/pregnancy multivitamin. I'd be interested in hearing how the fertility supplement goes for you!
August 9, 2012
Hey randomness and damecaite24, you are lucky to have your period back. No period for me since February after I stopped the BC (took for 10 years).
I know I'm also underweight, 100# for 5'10 and I crossfit 4 to 5 days a week. Went VLC for a long time (that's how I lost all the weight) but I've been at the same weight for almost 2 years. Now we would like to have a baby I don't have my god damn periods or don't ovulate. I've been increasing the carbs (sweet potatoes/taro chips, potatoes etc a few times a week and I do love chocolate and desserts!), I've been taking a prenatal pill for vitamins and minerals for 6 weeks now. Still nothing. I would love to have my periods so we could actually try to conceive. I know I still have to gain some weight but I'm working on it!!
Any advice? Recommendations?
August 3, 2012
I can't give you any real answers. But a few suggestions I hope might help! I know that being underweight can stop ovulation. Apparently when you're developing and getting your period as a teen your body takes note of the conditions, eg how much you eat and stuff for later on, which is why people in third world countries don't have trouble having babies even of they are malnourished. (I'll try and find the link to the article I read so don't quote me on that stuff). I also know that any change in diet and exercise as well as stress can affect ovulation. It may be that you need to tone down the exercise a little, put on some weight and get your carb intake right, but you may have to do that steadily for a whole before your body adjusts and starts ovulating again. Was your period regular before going on the pil? Some people have very irregular periods but still ovulate. Have you seen a Dr. about it?
If you haven't already read it, the article I linked to in the original post has some good info about carbs and stuff. You may need to up your carbs to at least 100/150g each day, I know how hard it is but it may just take time to get your body right.
So I guess I'm suggesting keep doing what you're doing and getting healthly! But it may take a while for you're body to recognize that it's getting everything it needs and has the right conditions for ovulation!
Some of the other ladies might be able to give you more info on fertility supplements etc.
Stick in there, TTC can be very emotionally hard on you! Especially when you can't even get started (I had my own issues with vaginismus last year).
I really hope you can get things sorted out!
(sorry for any errors I wrote this on my phone!)
Oh still had the page open on my phone! Here's a link to the article I mentioned at the top http://huntgatherlove.com/cont…..set-points
August 9, 2012
I have no idea how much carbs I'm eating and I'm not going to track food. Did it during VLC and check where I am now, minus 20#.
Also I'm very sensitive to stress, if I have an event at work, you cant be sure I'm going to lose weight the next day,
I love working out and I wake up super early because my husband has to for work (5am everyday). I know I could go back to sleep but somehow I use that time to go work out. Something must be wrong in my head, I wish I would already be + 10# without having to do it, which should be the fun part!!!
I feel fine and heathy but no period, drives me nuts!!!
August 3, 2012
I only counted carbs so that I could figure out if I needed more for my body to function properly and have my period. I am the opposite I really dislike exercise, and should do it more!
You could just count for a few days to figure it out maybe.. I wasn't getting enough but now I make sure I eat a banana with breakfast and either a serving of sweet potato or rice for lunch or dinner, and I know that is enough, even though I'm not counting or measuring exactly.
I also get very stressed, but haven't noticed it affecting my weight. Have stopped weighing myself so often though, cause I've pretty much stopped losing weight for now, I'm still 10lbs above my goal but as long as I'm healthy enough to have my period I am happy with that! I think the stress affects my sleep instead. Idk! But stress can also affect ovulation..
You might end up having to make some changes that you don't want to. For me it was giving up my goal weight for the time being and just eating a few more carbs, I want to be thinner! But I want to be pregnant more.
Do you exercise on an empty stomach before breakfast? I wonder if that has any affect on if your body thinks you are starving or not? Just an idea.. I was skipping breakfast and exercising then eating a big brunch on days I didn't start work early as well as going low carb, which is when my period stopped..
August 9, 2012
Yes I am working out on an empty stomach but it has always been like that. Since I work out at 6am I can't have breakfast before. Plus I can't work out with food in my stomach. Won't work together…
I'm French so I've been raised with bread. Cut it once I moved to the US so maybe I should reintroduce more often it to my diet. My body grew up with way more carbs so maybe that is the trick. I don't eat much carbs at breakfast and lunch. Breakfasts are usually spoons of almond butter or 2 eggs. Lunches some kind of meat, veggies, salad and chocolate (of course). For dinner I tend to eat more carbs, sweet potatoe chips, yucca chips but no pasta or rice. Bread and fries and we eat out. And dessert. Cookies or ice cream.
My husband is working at dinner time most nights so i don't really feel like cooking. I love eating out and I do it quite often so I have different veggies at lunch (tomatoes, zucchini, celery, carrots etc…) but small portions. No real time at work… For dining out its usually fries sweet potatoe fries, love it!!
August 3, 2012
Oh, so do you follow the Paleo diet?
I'm not suggesting you exercise straight after eating.. I just wasn't sure if exercising after fasting all night makes any difference.. I stopped doing it, but I also made other changes so I don't know.. Now I exercise late in the morning before lunch, so hours after breakfast or maybe in the afternoon before dinner.. But it's just a case of figuring out what works best for you hey!
August 9, 2012
I dont have time to work out in the late morning because i have to go to work… Working out in the evening keeps me too energized so not very practical at night. I've always worked out fasted so i guess i'm used to it. I know i should cut back on the workouts, but it keeps me sane. I just have to increase my food intake all the time. Now its on and off and im only up 2 lbs in 3 months.
I follow a 80/20 paleo diet because i still my desserts and i drink alcohol once or twice a week. I don't eat frozen food, pasta, cereals, breads and stuff. Im going to eat more bread though now. Paleo will come after, I really need to gain weight to get my periods back and finally conceive.
My gynecologist showed my file to an endocrinologist to figure a treatment. I'm not ready to go through a treatment yet, with the injections and stuff, i think its too soon and not practical because my doctor is in france and i live in the US. However the endo said i had to increase on vegetable oils (olive, sunflower and rapeseed). Apparently those are good for healthy weigh gain. Sunflower and rapeseed are not very pale-ish though…
Also it was confirmed that i have HA… I'm going back to france in september to do an x-ray of the fallopian tubes. apparently it will be good to check it out. Already got blood tests, hormones tests, TSH, echographies, 2 MRIs (uterus and hypothalamus) and now i need an x-ray…. I feel crazy and despaired i wont be able to have a baby.
August 3, 2012
Ok then, I'm sure you'll figure out the balance between exercise, food and everything that works for you!
Even though I sometimes cheat, I usually stick to excess carbs but not wheat, because there are other reasons to stay away from it other than just the carbs. There are plenty of high calorie, high carb foods that can be eaten while still avoiding wheat, but you may be ok with it. Hook into some white potatoes or rice maybe? As well as sweet potatoes (my husband is so sick of them cause I eat sweet potato every day!)
I really hope everything is ok on the medical side! Hopefully once you gain some weight you will be good to go! Sorry, I don't know what HA means..
Stick in there, and stay positive! Do you mind me asking how old you are?
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